T2. Aliens. Big Momma’s House 2.
All represent rare instances of sequels which don’t suck.
Ok. Maybe not that last one.
But when we’re talking supplements, sequels are usually a poor imitation of the original, thrown together when an ingredient gets flagged up or banned.
Which brings us to Pre Jym 2.0, the brand new pre workout from Dr. Jim Stoppani.
Now, the original Pre Jym formula was great. I’d go as far as to call it one of my favourite pre workouts of all time. But how about it’s successor?
Today’s Pre Jym 2.0 review will give you the straight-up facts on whether this sequel joins the ranks of the elite, or belongs in the bargain basement. As usual, my deliberately harsh supplement rating system will pull no punches.
Pre Jym – But Not So 2.0
I can’t give you a Pre Jym review without first giving you the backstory behind why there’s even a new version of Pre Jym out there to begin with.
So, in case you don’t keep up to date with fitness industry shenanigans, Jim originally launched his Jym Supplement Science line with Bodybuilding.com, and it quickly became the biggest-selling pre workout in the world.
That’s thanks largely to it’s solid formula (which we’ll get to), it’s transparent label, and the level of trust Jim Stoppani has built up within the supplement industry after years of solid advice in muscle building magazines and bodybuilding websites.
But the skyline didn’t stay perfect for long…
By the end of 2016, Jim and Bodybuilding.com had parted ways after a disagreement over who owned the Jym supplement brand, and Stoppani wound up releasing a new line-up through GNC (hence we have Pre Jym 2.0).
To make matters doubly confusing for the consumer, bodybuilding.com stuck to their guns and carried on selling the original Jym supplements, so we really had two different versions of the same product on the market for a while!
Unfortunately, Jim lost some of his credibility during this time after a series of rants towards other supplement companies, most notably this one with NutraBio founder Mark Glazer, and this debacle in which Jim claimed his supplements are the only ones on the market to operate without a proprietary blend.
(They are not, nor were they the first.)
Thankfully, after the continued success of Pre Jym via distribution through GNC, the two parties managed to patch up their relationship and Jim returned “home” to bodybuilding.com in mid-2017, where they continue to sell the new and improved Pre Jym formula.
Pre Jym Review – The Good
The above information is a very important thing to know when trying the new Pre Jym.
Because despite the brand change, the drama, and the snazzy new label design, what we see here is an almost identical formula to the original.
While the 2.0 suggests a “next generation” of Jym supplements, this is merely clever marketing.
Once we get under the hood of the product, we are really getting the same old same old, with the name merely altered to separate this product – and proclaim superiority – from confusion with the old Jym brand that was also being sold separately at the time.
In fact, the only notable difference between the the new formula and the old formula is the inclusion of huperzine-A in the new blend.
Huperzine-A is a nootropic alkaloid which is added to bodybuilding supplements to increase mental focus, although no significant research exists to document it’s effectiveness at doing so. It has, however, been shown to increase muscle contraction force, so that’s something. (1)
Is huperzine-A going to make or break your workout? Absolutely not!
Thankfully, the rest of the Pre Jym formula still stands up, meaning it is able to hold it’s own at the top end of the premium pre workout supplement market.
A full clinical dose of 6g citrulline malate will provide you with enhanced training endurance, improved recovery between sets and a great pump. Couple this with a 2 gram serving of beta-alanine to delay the onset of lactic acid, and you should see some rather impressive boosts to workout performance with Pre Jym. (3, 4)
The real powerhouse of most pre workout supplements (and this is no different) is caffeine.
At 300mg per serving, Pre Jym is near the top end of the supplement market in terms of dosage.
Finally, open label transparency continues with the entire Jym Supplement Science brand, so there are no hidden ingredients or misleading proprietary blends on display here.
Pre Jym Review – The Bad
Nothing is perfect.
Not even the self-proclaimed “king”…
So where does Pre Jym get it wrong? And where could it be better?
Well, first up we have the inclusion of creatine HCL.
There is nothing wrong with creatine in general (and creatine HCL shows promise as an alternative to creatine monohydrate) however it offers no additional benefits to consume creatine prior to training versus just staying on top of your daily intake. Seeing as it’s very cheap to supplement with creatine anyway, this ingredient is somewhat unnecessary as part of a pre.
You could argue that beta-alanine is under-dosed in Pre Jym.
At 2 grams per serving, this falls well short of the recommended 3.2g clinical dose.
However, research suggests that you can enhance absorption (slightly) by splitting beta-alanine consumption into two as opposed to taking it all in one serving, and it’s worth noting that Stoppani also offers another 2g serving (totaling 4g) in his post-workout supplement, Post Jym. (9)
Like most other pre workouts, Pre Jym comes equipped with a 1g serving of taurine in each scoop. This is another negative, as taurine is a proven antagonist of caffeine, and given the large serving of caffeine on offer here it doesn’t make sense to dilute it by including taurine alongside it.
The inclusion of leucine is a controversial one.
It’s long been thought to boost training performance when taken as part of a pre workout, which is why you can often see BCAAs included in formulas, however interesting research suggests that leucine is best kept until after training, as it can lead to CNS fatigue and cause the trainee to feel sluggish. (7, 8)
Pre Jym Review – Nutrition Breakdown
Let’s take a more in-depth look at the ingredients inside Pre Jym to see whether it contains enough of each key ingredient to give you the expected training benefits.
The pre workout marketplace is rife with below-par products which hide their formula behind bogus proprietary blends or under-dose key ingredients, leaving you feeling ripped off.
For the most part, you should be pleasantly surprised by Pre Jym.
- 300mg Caffeine
Caffeine is the star player in any great pre workout, and Pre Jym doesn’t skimp on the dosage here.
The effectiveness of caffeine is dependent on an individual’s tolerance level, but 300mg per serving puts this right at the top end of the spectrum and means that this product is most certainly a one-scooper, unless you plan on laying in bed like a human pneumatic drill. (2)
Most people know caffeine for it’s energy boosting properties, which have been well documented in various studies over the years, but it’s also been shown to boost mental focus and can even boost strength output if taken in very high dosages.
The fat burning benefits are overstated, but the mental boost and energy kick are more than enough to warrant it’s position as a valuable pre workout ingredient.
- 6g Citrulline Malate
Citrulline malate is the most under-appreciated ingredient in a truly great pre workout supplement.
While we like to focus on the ingredients we can feel working (caffeine and beta-alanine), citrulline gets to work in the background and when supplemented regularly it can make a huge difference to the quality of your training!
Six grams is the clinically proven dosage at which we can expect to see the maximum response, so Pre Jym hits the mark here.
- 2g Beta-Alanine
Have you ever felt your face tingling after drinking a preworkout?
But while it’s often unfairly used as a superficial ingredient which is thrown in purely so you can ‘feel’ your pre kicking in, there are numerous benefits to using beta-alanine.
A 2010 study from researchers at the University of Manchester discovered that boxers increased their punching power by as much as 2000% during the closing stages of a bout via supplementing with beta-alanine prior to training. (5)
It is also useful for improving your ability to push through “the burn” during training, with another useful study showing us that subjects were able to force out 25% more repetitions per set. (6)
- 3g Leucine
There are 6 grams of BCAAs included in each serving of Pre Jym.
That’s broken down as 3g leucine, 1.5g isoleucine, and 1.5g valine.
BCAAs are often referred to as “the building blocks of muscle” due to their anabolic capabilities, so it’s no surprise to see them in so many pre workout formulas from most of the leading brands.
However, that doesn’t mean it’s right.
You may have noticed that I listed this as a red flag above. That’s because research suggests that when leucine is taken pre workout it acts as an inhibitor of l-tyrosine, preventing dopamine production and even making the user feel sluggish during training.
So this is another fitness belief which makes sense in theory, but doesn’t work out in practice, and it needs to be treat the same as the fasted cardio BCAA myth.
BCAAs are great, but save them until after training.
- 2g Creatine HCL
Creatine is incredible for boosting strength performance and muscle size.
It’s probably the most well-researched bodybuilding supplement of all time, with decades of solid evidence to support it’s benefits and safety. (10)
While many newer forms have been developed over the years, none have shown greater performance than creatine monohydrate (the original).
Creatine HCL is an interesting possible successor to monohydrate, however, given that it has been shown to produce the same effects as monohydrate without the need for carbohydrate consumption – making it a useful way to get the benefits of creatine for those following low carb or ketogenic diets. (11)
However, this doesn’t escape the fact that creatine is not really necessary in a pre workout.
There are not additional benefits to consuming your creatine first thing in the morning, or last thing at night, or as part of your pre.
- 1g Taurine
Taurine is the darling of the pre workout and energy drink industry.
It’s cheap, and has been shown to have positive effects of mental focus and increased blood flow to working muscles. (12, 13)
However, we’d need a dose of 2g to see any of those benefits, so Pre Jym is under-dosed here and you’d have to either pick up more taurine on it’s own or order Post Jym to get the rest.
But that’s not the biggest negative with taurine…
Taurine is an antagonist of caffeine.
This means it blocks the effectiveness of The Big C when they are consumed directly, as was shown in a 2012 study published in Pharmacology, Biochemistry & Behaviour. (14)
This was a talking point when AML released their excellent pre workout (the imaginatively titled AML Pre Workout) in 2016 and directly called out the Jym brand for their inclusion of taurine, as well as leucine.
- 1.5g L-Tyrosine
This amino acid is a precursor to dopamine.
A 2011 study published in the Journal of Applied Physiology showed that it’s possible to increase training capacity by using l-tyrosine to increase dopamine production, as subjects performed markedly better during exercise in outdoor heat. (15)
Including it alongside caffeine (and a hefty serving size to boot!) will result in a decent energy boost before training, but it’s held back by being consumed alongside leucine in Pre Jym, as explained above.
Pre Jym Review – The Final Verdict
There will primarily be two groups of people looking at Pre Jym 2.0.
- Those looking for a great pre workout.
- Those trying to figure out what the difference is between this and the old Pre Jym supplement.
If you fall into the first group, you will find Pre Jym to be a great pre workout supplement.
I’ve always been a big fan of the doctor and the work he has done in the supplement industry over the years. This product lives up to it’s billing as one of the very top pre workout supplements in it’s class.
In true Jim Stoppani style, the dosages have been clinically proven(for most key ingredients) to increase workout performance and the label is very transparent.
It’s no longer “the king of pre workouts”, though.
Since the release of Pre Jym, an array of other trustworthy and proven supplement manufacturers have raised their game, and it will be interesting to see if we ever get another version of Pre Jym to compete with the innovations which have taken place in the last couple of years, most notably the fantastic product released by Advanced Molecular Labs.
If you’re a user of the original Pre Jym, you are really not missing anything “new and improved” here other than maybe the packaging. If you like green.
As such, my Pre Jym review concludes with the award of 4 stars from my deliberately harsh supplement rating system.
The fabled 5 stars is lost due to the fact that I’m still a bit p****d the name hinted at a new and improved formula.
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